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Wheras They Say That, Both In The Isle, And In Mount Hecla We Appoint
Certaine Places, Wherin The Soules
Of our countrimen are tormented, we
vtterly stand to the deniall of that and we thanke God & our Lord Iesus
Christ from the botome of our hearts (who hath deliuered vs from death &
hell, & opened vnto vs the gate of the kingdome of heaan because he hath
instructed vs more truely, concernmg the place, whether the soules of our
deceased countrimen depart, then these historiographers doe tell vs. We
know and maintain that the soules of the godly are transported immediatly
out of their bodily prisons, not into the Papists purgatory, nor into the
Elysian fields, but into Abrahams bosome, into the hand of God, & into the
heauenly paradise. We know & maintaine concerning the soules of the wicked,
that they wander not into the fires & ashes of mountaines or into visible
ice, but immediatly are carried away into vtter darknesse, where is weeping
& gnashing of teeth, where there is colde also, & fire not comon, but far
beyond our knowledge & curious disputation. Where not onely bodies, but
soules also, that is spirituall substances are tormented. And we do also
hold, that the Islanders are no whit nearer vnto this extreame & darke
prison, in regard of the situation of place, then the Germans, Danes,
Frenchmen, Italians, or any other nation whatsoeuer. Neither is it any
thing to the purpose, at all to dispute of the place or situation of this
dungeon. It is sufficient for vs, that (by the grace and assistance of our
Lord Iesus Christ, with whose precious blood we are redeemed) we shall
neuer see that vtter darknesse, nor feele the rest of the torments that be
there. Now let vs here shut vp the disputation concerning the hell of
Island.
SECTIO DECIMA.
[Sidenote: Frisius, Zieglerus Saxo fere similiter.] Quod si quis ex hac
glacie magnam partem ceperit, eamque vasi ant scrinio inclusam, quam
diligentissime asseruarit, illa tempore glaciei, qua circum insulam est,
degelantis, euanescit, vt neque minima eius particula vel guttula aqua
reperiatur.
Id profecto necessario addendum fuit: Hanc scilicet glaciem, voces humanas,
secundum Historicos, representatem, & damnatorom receptaculum existentem,
non esse, vt reliqua in vastissima hac vniuersitate omnia, ex Elementi
alicuius materia conflatam. Siquidem cum corpus esse videatur, corpus tamen
non sit, (quod ex Frisij paradoxo recte deducitur) cum etiam corpora dura &
solida perrumpat, non secus ac, spectra & genij: Restat igitur cum non sit
elementaris natura, vt vel spiritualem habeat materiam, vel coelestem, vel
quod ipsi forsan largiantur, infernalem. Infernalem tamen esse non
assentiemur, quia ad aures nostras peruenit frigus infernale longe esse
intractabilius, quam est hac glacies, humanis manibus in scrinio reposita,
nec quicquam suo contactu, vel nudatam carnem ladere valens. Nec profecto
spiritualem esse dabimus; accepimus enim a Physicis, substantias
spirituales nec cerni, nec tangi, nec ijs quicquam decedere posse: qua
tamen omnia in hanc historicorum glaciem, quantumuis, secundum illos,
hyperphysicam, cadere certum & manifestum est. Praterea & hoc verissimum
est, eam calore solis resolutam, ac in superficie sua stagnantem, siti
piscatorum restinguenda, non secus ac riuos terrestres, inseruire: Id quod
substantia spirituali denegatum est. Non est igitur spiritualis, vt nec
infernalis. Iam vero coelestem habere materiam, nemo audebit dicere: Ne
forte inde aliquis suspicetur, glaciem hanc barathrum, quod illi Historici
affingunt, secum e coelo traxisse: Vel id coelo, quippe eiusdem materia cum
glacie, commune esse, atque ita carcer damnatorum cum Paradiso coelesti
loca commutasse, Historicorum culpa putetur.
Quare cum glacies hac Historica nec sit elementaris, vt ex prasenti loco
Frisij optime sequi iam toties monuimus: nec spiritualis, nec infernalis,
quod vtrumque breuibus, solidis tamen rationibns demonstrauimus: nec
coelestis materia, quod opinari religio vetat: relinquitur omnino, vt
secnndum eosdem Historicos nulla sit, quam tamen illi tam cum stupenda
admiratione pradicant, & nos videri ac tangi putamus. Est igitur, & non
est: Quod axioma vbi secundum idem, & ad idem, & eodem tempore, verum esse
poterit, nos demum miraculis istis glacialibus credemus. Itaque iam vides
Lector, ad hac refellenda nullo alio esse opus, quam monstrari quomodo
secum dissideant. Sed haud mirum, eum qui semel vulgi fabulosis rumoribus
se cermisit, sapius errare. Cuiusmodi etiam prodidit quidam de glaciei
huius Sympathia, quod videlicet molis, cuius pars esset, discessum
insequeretur, vt omnem obseruationis diligentiam ineuitabili fuga
necessitate deciperet. Atqui sape idimus eiusmodi solitariam molem post
abactam reliquam glaciem, nullis vectibus nullis machinis detentam, ad
littus multis septimanis consistere. Palam est igitur, illud de glacie
miraculum fundamento niti, quam est ipsa glacies, magis lubrico.
The same in English.
THE TENTH SECTION.
[Sidenote: Frisius. Zieglerus. Saxo.] If any man shall take a great
quantity of this ice, & shall keepe it neuer so warily enclosed in a
coffer or vessel, it wil at that time when the ice thaweth about the
Iland, vtterly vanish away, so that not the least part thereof, no nor a
drop of water is to be found.
Surely, this was of necessity to be added: namely, that this ice, which
according to historiographers representeth mans voice, & is the place of
the damned, doth not as all other things in this wide world, consist of the
matter of some element. For whereas it seemeth to be a body, when indeed it
is no body: (which may directly be gathered out of Frisius absurd opinion)
whereas also it pierceth through hard & solide bodies, no otherwise then
spirits & ghosts: therefore it remaineth, seeing it is not of an elementary
nature, that it must haue either a spirituall, or a celestial, or an
infernal matter. But that it should be infernall, we can not be perswaded,
because we haue heard that infernall cold is farre more vnsufferable then
this ise, which vseth to be put into a boxe with mens hands, & is not of
force any whit to hurt euen naked flesh, by touching thereof. Nor yet will
we grant it to be spirituall: for we haue learned in naturall Philosophy,
that spiritual substances can neither be seene nor felt, & cannot haue any
thing taken from them: all which things do notwithstanding most manifestly
agree to this ise of the Historiographers, howsoeuer according to them it
be supernatural.
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